17 Mayıs 2012 Perşembe

In Dragon Age 2, can you have a relationship with Fenris even if you choose the mages' side?

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Ok, I want to be in a relationship and romance blah blah with Fenris. BIG PROBLEM-


First: I am a Mage.


Second: In Act 3 when I have to choose the Mage Side Or Templar Side, I want Fenris to still love me if I pick the Mages. I don't want to have to choose the Templar's and get hated by all the Mages.


The Brother Carter has also joined the Templars since I didn't take him with me to the Deep Roads. I want to keep him alive and not have Meredith kill him :[


So if any of you guys could help out at all I would be grateful.


P.S. I usually have Anders by my side at all times and I usually have Isabela or Merrill with me. Recently I have had Varric at my side. If Carter joins my party once again should I have him by my side a lot?


Thank you so much if you answer this!!!!|||Yes of course you can, but you have to be in a good relation ship with him since the beginning (High friendship, no rivalry) ... even if you took the mages side you can convince him to fight with you.


The same for Merill if you chose the Templar side.

What happens if you take Merrill to 100% rivalry in Dragon Age 2? (spoilers)?

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-- Spoilers below --



Ok, so it seems - I mean this is only what I've observed - is that most people take the route with Merrill where you say yes to everything she says, romance her and she ends up staying with you.



I've had lengthy discussions on this - it seems to me that if the player, who's the only one who has the ability to change the outcome of this mess, chooses the path where he encourages Merrill to persue her obsession with the Eluvian, never objecting and never saying no, it is definitely bad not only for her clan but ultimately for Merrill herself. It may seem that the player gets what he wants - he or she gets Merrill to his or herself, no more objections from the clan and she is devoted to the player's character. But to me this is actually the worst outcome possible. In real life, no one could say you were really being a friend to Merrill by encouraging her to follow a prolonged demon-forged path that resulted in not only her Keeper but her entire clan getting killed, and end up standing there going on about that the reason it happened was because they wouldn't listen to her. To me, the wrongness of this is implacable. You end up with a dead keeper, a dead clan and an elf who refuses to take responsibility that her actions had anything to do with it, and who looks at you for complete validation for everything she is. It's horribly unhealthy, and something a demon would want to do to someone to shape them into a tool determined to release it.



At first I was so disgusted by this that I thought that Merrill was bad in some way, or crazy - but really I will admit I was wrong. It's you as the player in the game that determines how this goes, but I'm not quite done yet with the end of my first playthrough, and am already wanting to play it differently and am considering pursuing the rivalry path.



So, back to my question - if instead you choose to rival her, which from what I understand is not the same as hatred or antagonism, though many (including me) may have thought so, does this come out better for Merrill in terms of her well being? Meaning, yes, while you may not get her 100% devoted to you, would it be the best thing for her to be in the first place?



Also, please advise on the rivaly romance. I've read that you can romance her while she is in rivalry, which while may seem illogical, some people are the best couples who fight.|||I rivaled Merrill. Yes, I thought she was very stupid, but it turns out that she was already compromised when she meets Hawke. She did appear sane, however. It's impossible to hate her though.



Friendship or Rivalry, when you hit 100% of either, a character is completely devoted to your cause. They do not agree with you all the time, but they respect your opinion. Fenris is another case where some of the conversations can appear bitter, and by supporting Anders and mages in general it seems you are flying in the face of everything Fenris hates. But if he's 100% rival, he will still totally back your play in Act 3.



SPOILERS, indeed -











There are things in the game that do not change, no matter what you do, and this is perhaps the only gripe I have that remains about DA2. You will have to kill the Arishok, Anders is going to go all Unabomber on the Chantry and Merrill is going to have to kill the Keeper, who will get possessed in order to save Merrill from the demon in the mirror.



Merrill is under the influence of a Pride demon and is unable to accept that her actions will result in disaster. She thinks she is wise enough, has been careful enough, and won't fall prey to what clearly killed Tamlin.



If you Rival her, you spend the game feeling like you are kicking a puppy. It feels worse if Anders and Fenris are in the party with you and Merrill as they will also jump in and unload on Merrill for her misguided notion that she can come out the winner while dealing with demons.



If you are in a friendship or rivalry with her, you have an equal chance to avoid violence, or wind up slaughtering every Dalish on the Sundermount after the confrontation with the Pride demon and the Keeper. Even as a rival, I thought what Fenris and Anders said to her after that battle and all the way home to Kirkwall was incredibly harsh. But considering the price paid for playing with the Eluvian, they were not entirely wrong.



For a rivalry, I kept Merrill out of the party for any of Anders personal quests, and once she brings up the mirror, disagree with her every step of the way. When she asks for your help getting the tool, be short and blunt rather than supportive, but go with her. After the task the Keeper gives you is complete, refuse to give the tool to Merrill. Just don't. It royally pisses her off, in that cute Merrill way. When you talk to her in her house later, continue to stand by your earlier decision and she kicks you out of her house, and you find the whole party standing out in the street in the Alienage. I was so surprised by this I laughed pretty hard at the thought of tiny Merrill tossing Hawke, Anders and Fenris out the door. I haven't encountered a break point that causes her to leave the companions entirely.



Later on she will break the mirror, only the difference is that she will tell you that you were right all along.



For a Rival-mance, I still flirted with Merrill during her Questioning Beliefs quests and when giving her the two gifts. The mechanics work the same as most other romances in the game. You just have to dig in about the mirror and blood magic to maintain rivalry and avoid conversations with others she would approve of (Anders, mostly). When you reach a certain point in Act 2, like Fenris she will turn up at your mansion and force the romance issue. I hadn't planned on it, and was surprised by it, considering how harsh my M!Hawke was in conversations, but there she is and you can accept by flirting, or shut her down in the hallway. After the romance scene you can opt to continue it, or kick her (almost literally) out of bed and end it.



As squabbling couples (Rival-mance) go, Fenris is the best material for that - he gives as good as he gets in an argument. I can't shake the puppy-kicking feeling of fighting with Merrill.|||Yes, rivalry is much better for her in the end. She gives up on the mirror and blood magic. She also feels regret for her clan instead of disgust. You basically help her see the error of her ways instead of enabling her.



Rivalry makes no difference in the romance as long as you make sure to max it out completely. Basically take a hard stance against her using blood magi and refuse to help her repair the mirror. She also gains rivalry if you send mages to the circle and generally denounce magic. Merril feels frustrated with you at times for not supporting her, but she still likes Hawke and you do feel like they have a good relationship despite their disagreements.
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  • In Dragon Age Origins, about Morrigan's ritual...?

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    1. Does Morrigan's ritual have any affect on the other games?

    2. Can only me or Alistair be killed by the archdemon if I say don't do the ritual, or is Riordan possibility?

    3. Does making Alistair complete the ritual have any adverse affects?

    4. If you have a romance with Morrigan will she stay with you after the game ends if you d othe ritual? If you don't?



    First to last is how important they are for me to get an answer.|||1) It has some minor impact on the dialogue in the DLC Witch Hunt.



    2) Riordan, for plot reasons, always dies before the final battle. You can potentially recruit Loghain into your party (losing Alastair in the process) and make him a Grey Warden, in which case, he can be sacrificed in the final battle.



    3) Nope.



    4) No. However, in Witch Hunt, you can potentially stay with her then at the end.|||1. No it doesn't.

    2.Only a Grey Warden can kill it(you, alistar or loghain(if you kept him)). Riordan will die even before you meet the Archdemon. He will find the Archdemon first and try to kill it and dies in the process.

    3. No but I think it would be easier for you to complete it.

    4. IF you complete the ritual she will stay and help fight the archdemon then she leaves. IF you dont she'll leave the next morning. Either way she leaves, the difference is when.



    P/S: If you made Morrigan strong throughout the game, making her to have Hold Down spells(e.g. Cone of Cold, Blizzard, etc) you will want to complete the ritual so that she is there to help you out and you get to see Ferelden cheer your Heroism which is awesome! Get up close to the Archdemon and use Cone of cold to freeze it let the elves to chip its life away from far and make Morrigan use Tempest on the frozen dragon. Use alot of spells but stay away from fire spells because the dragon is almost immune to it. Freeze it and blast it with StoneFist(Wyne) if you use Fire spell it will melt the ice and he is free again. Use ample of Lyrium and Potions(Finish off your supply You won't need it anymore). All the best its gonna be AWESOME!!



    Long Live BioWARE!!! :)|||1) Not really sure. Haven't played the others...yet.

    2) If you saved Loghain, he can be used as a sacrifice or whatever, Riordan is not an option, he's off killing Darkspawn somewhere.

    3) I saved Alistair with the ritual, and he seemed a little disgusted, but the ending result is a happy ending (if you're a girl, anyway, because I was)

    4) Morrigan leaves regardless of your choice. She gets up and disappears randomly.

    :)|||1. I don't think the ritual affects any other games.

    2. There is the possibility of Loghain if you recruited him.

    3. I doubt it.

    4. She'll leave no matter what if you aren't in a romance. She'll stay for the battle but leave immediately afterward if you did the ritual and are in a romance with her.|||1. As of yet no, Morrigan's ritual only affects 1, not 2.

    2. No, Logain can also be used to do the ritual to kill the archdemon

    3. None I recall, but on my playthroughs I usually refuse Morrigan's ritual outright.

    4. Don't recall. I do know she'll stay for the final battle with the archdemon if you do the ritual, but I think she will leave after its over.
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  • Can Fenris move to Hawke's mansion? If so, how?

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    I'm romancing Fernris in Dragon Age 2 and I was wondering if he can move in to Hawke's mansion like some of the other characters and if so how?


    Also, I have him high on friendship, he wears the Hawke's family crest and the red thing on his arm and on Act 2 I had the romance scene...and I kissed Anders but I rejected him on the mansion scene and I rejected Merrill too on the mansion scene..does that affect Fenris romance at all?


    I also gave him the book in Act 2.|||No, he won't literally move in with you. He always stays in his mansion even after you get back together in act 3.





    I'm not sure if your other romances will hurt your chances with him. I think as long as you didn't sleep with any of them you will still be able to reconcile with him in act 3.

    I'm looking for a good Romantic RPG for the XBOX 360?

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    I've played and enjoyed Tales of Vesperia, Oblivion, Mass Effect 1 and 2, and Dragon Age: Origins. I want the romance to be more of the focus of the story, but if it's not, but still important in the game, that's fine too.|||Try fallout 3. it made me rethink my love life.











    Oh and roomers that in fable 3 you get to do your wife and have kids|||Sounds like your looking for whats called a visual novel. These are games that are HUGE in Japan and basically act like dating sims. These aren't so popular in America, and you'll be hard pressed to find any on the 360.





    The only games I can really think of is Eternal Sonata and Star Ocean: The Last Hope, emphasis on the former game. I think Sonata might be exactly what you're looking for.|||Good luck finding a good RPG for that. other than FF 13 and Mass Effect you won't find much. I've heard Lost Oddisy or whatever is fairly good.|||Are you kidding.

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    Die Hard Dragon Age 2 Fans help with something (spoilers)?

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    Has anyone play through this:





    If you Romance Fenris, Fem or Male all the way through his act 2 where he promptly leaves you, the Romance Anders or Merrill You go as far with them till they ask to move in and you say no, Can you continue the Fenris Romance in Act 3.





    I know if You Do this with any char. before completing his Act 2 Fenris will not complete his Act 2 Romance. But has anyone done this the other way around?|||i dont know, all i ever did was bang the elf and the pirate.|||Yes, you can bed Fenris, do the breakup scene, then bed Anders or someone else. But not the other way around. I have done the Fenris -%26gt; Anders Act 2 Shuffle a couple times now.



    While I haven't tried it on the same play through, I believe you can bed Fenris, Anders and Isabela (in that order!) in one game.



    You must start with Fenris at the top of act 2. Do his gifts, then personal quests and get the relationship score high enough to sleep with him. Then, he freaks out. Head on over to the clinic and do all of Anders gifts, then quests, and then when he shows up at the mansion, tell him Fenris left you (tear!) and sleep with him. After this move on to Isabela, lather, rinse, repeat.



    Funny bonus: If you have all three of them in the party with you afterward, at some point Fenris and Anders will trade some jealous bickering and Isabela shuts them both up by telling them to get over themselves: she did Hawke too.



    EDIT: No. Fenris is rather picky. If you sleep with anyone else after him, the romance is dead. Anders has a mutual hate thing with Fenris, but he won't shove you out of bed if he thinks Fenris is out of the picture. Isabela, I think it's been clearly established, is *not* picky.|||Nope, once Fenris leaves you the romance is over.

    Dragon Age 2 Fenris Glitch 360?

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    Not sure if this is a wide spread problem or if it is my xbox, So there are two ways to get the Fenris/Hawke Romance to full "climax" When Questioning Beliefs is done before Bitter pill, And Fenris goes to the Hawke Estate When Choosing "don't Go" option, Every single time, Fenris goes off screen and Hawke will Grab through his leg, not the arm, then the "steamy scene" will Start, I have looked on You Tube so I have seen the scene, but Mine misses about 30 seconds of the scene. IF I do Bitter pill then Questioning Beliefs it works fine, but that scene is less "steamy" Tiny bit annoying given the fact that besides Sebation he is one of the hardest to Romance, I love a challenge but Hate the fact of missing it.



    ALSO: WHERE in the world is the Book Gift for Fenris? The guide says Sack (that gives me Scarf, every time) at night in the Alienage, but I have looked in every act, I read some where it was in a store near the alienage in Act 2. I am not finding it ANYwhere, is this a glitch or did they remove it?|||Second answer first: The sack with the book can only be found in the Alienage at night, against a wall across from the Tree.



    If it's not night, you don't get it.



    First answer second, because it's weirder. I have not seen this particular glitch, but I will agree with you that there is *something* wrong with romance scene #1. When I choose "Don't Go" Hawke grabs his arm correctly (most of the time) and gets shoved against the wall, but Fenris throughout the entire scene is looking off towards his left (to the right viewed on the screen). So when Hawke shoves Fenris against the wall instead, Fenris is just looking off into space instead of making out.



    Scene #2 ("I have been thinking of you. In fact I've been thinking of little else.) always plays correctly.



    I do wish Scene #1 played correctly, even though I'm not missing any of the video, but Fenris staring off into space is a little odd. Not the sort of thing I've come to enjoy from BioWare game animations. I do like Scene #2 though.|||I got the same leg grabbing glitch on my PC , it was fixed since the latest patch came out. The xbox will be patched soon too, I assume it will be fixed then.



    You have another option, skip the "don't go" dialogue and let him leave. Then the next time you come back to the mansion at night he will show up wanting to spend the night with you. It doesn't have quite the same intensity as the first scene, but the rest should play out normally.
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